That is open to suggestions!

This is a photo I took at the conference of Nate Hagens, Euan Mearns, and Luis de Sousa.

I am a big fan of bananas (known for alleviating depression).....But now I am not so sure. I need a new drug.

By the way, has anybody else been suffering from Peak Oil fatigue?

Great to hear; any online proceedings, or are the ongoing articles the sources?

Rembrandt and Ugo are the best ones to answer the question.

My impression is that there are some audio recordings besides the presentations, but no video recordings as such. Some people may also decide to make posts out of their presentations.

I can't speak for others. It seems to me that we have to take one day at a time.

In my view, it is financial collapse (arising from the inability of the economy to grow fast enough to support all the debt, because of the higher cost of extracting oil) that is the limiting situation. Exactly how soon we reach a major financial disruption, and what the impact will be on world trade and things like the internet is unclear. It is possible things may hold together for years, but it is also possible that we may see a big change within weeks.

It seems to me that Liebig's Law of the Minimum will be what is important. Its impact is hard to predict, because so many pieces that we don't fully understand are involved.

What if travel like that isn't possible next year?

When everyone is terminally unemployed there will be plenty of time for sailing across the pond.
Most cruising sailboats average about 120 miles a day so figure about a month or so each way and month's stay for meetings. That leaves the other 9 months to prepare for the next trip.

Can you say PARADIGM SHIFT?

I agree there is irony to flying to such a conference. There were a few of us who flew (I know of four out of the 50 who flew, including Nate and myself--all from the US.) The vast majority of the attendees were European, and I am pretty sure that the country with greatest representation was Italy. There was one Australian in attendance, but he was already in Europe on other business.

Most of the attendees came by train. Two attendees rode bicycles that they had rented in Perugia; another attendee walked 16 km from a farm not far away.

This was undoubtedly discussed by some participants at the event itself .... "how did you get here? ....how far did you drive/fly/bike/walk/swim? ..."

Flying to Italy to discuss PO. Am I the only one to see the irony of this?

What a preacherman you are, Darwinsdog!

Relax - we're screwed anyhow. Gaudeamus igitur.

I once flew to Hawaii to discuss peak oil with Jay Hanson. It was loads of fun. I am currently debating whether or mot to take two different trips to Denver this year, ASPO and another involving nuclear power. Someone do the math. If I avoid two trips from Southern California to Denver, how long would the energy saved run our civilization? Micro seconds, mu seconds or what?

At least I could bicycle to the airport in Linköping. ;-)

I essentially padded the visit with about two days in Florence before and about two days in Venice after. Thus I could book cheaper airline tickets and see a little more of Italy. If oil had been $500 per barrel and the ticket too expensive or the airline grounded due to bankruptcy I could have used about half of that as travel time on trains. When things settle down it will be both nice and productive to travel by airconditioned trains with a wifi connection and either travel in a sleep couch or stop over at hotels as people often did a long time ago.

Florence and Venice can probably give a multitude of usefull historical lessons. One of them is probably that wealth and greatness can be had if multiple generations exploit a slight logistical and productivity advantage in a sustainable way that allows an accumulation of all the kinds of capital. They are also fairly small places with some grand buildings, especially Venice were faschinating to walk around in, distances were so short that it did not matter if you took one or five wrong turns since you could backtrack or walk randomly and in 5 min and reach something that were easy to recognice.

It would probably be possible to write a nice TOD post comparing Venice canal logistics with natural tides pumping out the citys waste products with the first industrial ages railways and canals and todays highways and suburbia. There ought to be something in the interaction between the "natural" systems and how the decison makers used them themselves. Everything went by boat in Venice, in their heaydays they lacked bridges as I have read US towns lack sidewalks. The Venice I visited with its two dimensional mostly walkable maze is a later stage development built on top of a very odd society where people seems to have traveld between their homes and to work from doorstep to doorstep in small containers with their wealth being measured by the grandiosity of their wehicels and houses while the order were being maintained by an all seeing police state using informers...

For me it was worth it to fly over there and then see a little more and get new impressions. Dunno if it was worth it for the abstract society to have me there, I guess that depends on this little individual finally doing something usefull. ;-)

I agree -- meeting face to face and traveling are both wonderful, but we could all benefit from being linlked into a conference "live."

I strongly second this. This is a great idea.
Webcast the slides, have a live simul audio broadcast and have a chat/question window for questions and discussion, while the lecture is going on

This is the 21st century after all, and TOD is a democracy (or is it an oligarchy?)

there is also technology called "jam" that allows broad global participation and contribution to various idea themes. then you can sort them out and cull them down

Hello Bob,

We made the impression to the locals that we are going to save the world, so this at least is a good development ;-).

Rembrandt