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I wonder, will bottled water ever be cheaper than oil? How much oil is spent in piping and treating the water, bottling it and transporting it close to the consumer?
In terms of volume oil is by far the most traded commodity in the world today. What all those folks looking for scape goats need to understand is that 80 odd million barrels a day is really a big figure. Keeping that number for these last few years has been a tremendous task and a very special moment in Mankind's history.
Correct me if i'm wrong:
85 million barrels; 159 litres per barrel
Total litres = 13.5 billion litres
Estimated human population about 6.5 billion people.
Divinding 13.5 by 6.5 we have 2.07 litres produced per every human.
Meaning that if we'd passed the responssability to every human being in the planet of producing some kind of liquid that after some treatment could replace oil, every one had to produce daily 2 litres of such liquid.
I don't drink that much water per day.
MetaPico
You should drink 64 ounces of water everyday to keep your kidneys working fine and all the other running bady parts. If you don't then you are not Cycling your body like it should run.
But then again niether do I. But I am half camel, and I have had Kidney Stones, 3 times in the past 2 years.
Nothing we have can at this time equal the power production like OIL can, not water, not Urine, and not coca-cola..... So given the energy density of OIL, we better start making some life changes soon.
Charles.
2 litres a day! Even if I rendered down the wife, I figure that I'd only get about 13 litres of dripping. (Hmmm, I wonder though, maybe it would be worth it for one final week of driving pleasure!)
Desalination of seawater has a low energy consumption compared to the energy in oil.
This water could be bottled :-).
ca. 2003 stated price <8$/1000 Gallon
http://www.membranes-amta.org/media/pdf/desaltingcost.pdf
and approx the same here, where it is noted the importance of using updated energy costs.
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=18585189
and a nice description from california on the kWh necessary for various techniques.
http://www.coastal.ca.gov/desalrpt/dchap1.html
kind regards/And1
for what it is worth
the 30+ billion plastic water bottles we bought in 2006 ...
Who is this we you speak of, Kemosabe?
So drink tapwater and dress in recycled paper coveralls that you can use as fuel every month or two when they become obnoxious for other folk to be around. Sheesh.
refer to the link for author and details.
Here in the uk I recently bought loads of Buxton water (best quality spring)in 1.5 litre bottles, from my local T*sh*tco and it cost 17p per litre, or 34p per litre at usual price. I have to conclude that the US dollar must be really worth 0.1 GB Pounds rather than the ~0.6 generally supposed.
The Bottled water issue is that 204 Dollars is a value added tax. I ran numbers for my Dad's Club soda per barrel, then took out the price on One barrel of Oil for the production costs of the One barrel of Club Soda.
I was really hit hard today when I went to Buy Eggs from Wally-World. Dang, I thought the prices were high a while ago.
I don't drive so I don't see the pennies flying out the door so much as I used to. I walked to the Local Wally-World this afternoon and again this evening from my 3rd Ex-wive's trailer and seeing that I either take a bus or walk everywhere I just notice that the Number of Cars seems to be there still and Wally-World was just as packed in. But I did notice the cost of Food going up and up.
"Food or Gas?" I was saying to anyone that could hear me while I walked the Isles in the local Wally-World....
Being recently disabled because of damage due from Blood Clots in 2005, I notice where my dollars go I am Glad I don't have to pay for a car too.
But sooner rather than Later and before the Election this is going to Blow up into a full blown crisis sooner than most MSM and Poli-tick-ians know.
Charles.
Bottled water is already much cheaper than oil. Just because water costs a buck a liter (or more) doesnt mean it costs $8 a gallon or $300 a barrel. Most of the cost of water is in the per unit price, and it doesnt scale linearly. If you were to buy a barrel of spring water, it would only cost you about $10-$30, depending on where you are. Most of that cost would be delivery.
In a sense, when you buy water, you are really buying oil. The oil it took to pump and package the water.
I get a flat of 35 1/2 liter bottles of water for $6 at Costco. What you pay for is convenience.
I lifted the price from this link here:
https://secure1.securewebexchange.com/aquamaestro.com/innerview.asp?cati...
One of the real issues here is the poor quality of water in our taps. In Aberdeen my wife and two kids refuse to drink the tap water which they claim is foul.
Bottled water wastes energy and produces so much waste.
The crude oil vs bottled water comparison argument is specious and getting annoying. If you're going to compare crude oil to water, don't compare it to bottled water but rather to tap water. Or better yet to the bulk cost of ocean or lake water. It is disingenuous to compare a processed and packaged product to a raw material.