Peak oil: BP, Conoco CEOs say it's here - also IEA's Fatih Birol really freaks out

After the CEO of Total (the French oil major) last week, two more CEOs of an oil major came out this Thursday to give stark warnings that mean that peak oil is happening right now. In addition, the chief economist of the International Energy Agency (the IEA), one of the main cheerleaders of the "there's more than enough oil" camp until now, is giving an extraordinarily pessimistic interview in the Financial Times, following the recent publication of their latest World Energy Outlook.

Let me take you through all their affirmations.

Big Oil CEOs Point To Constraints On Supply Growth

HOUSTON -(Dow Jones)- Pointing to a variety of political and technological constraints on energy investment, chief executives at two oil giants Thursday highlighted systemic limitations on the growth of the supply of oil, implying that there will be high oil prices for at least the medium term.

The fact that two CEOs spoke separately, but at the same conference, on this topic, is, in itself, significant. We've already had various "worried" messages coming from executives or senior analysts of the oil world with bearish messages, but they could be reported in isolation, and safely ignored the next day. This time, very similar messages came from 2 sources, making it harder to ignore (and, of course, the proximity of the symbolic $100 barrel makes it all the more newsworthy).

But let's get to the gist of it:

ConocoPhillips (COP) Chief Executive James Mulva had earlier told a New York financial conference that he doubted that world oil producers would be able to meet forecast long-term energy demand growth. The International Energy Agency, the energy watchdog for western economies, has projected 2030 world oil demand of 116 million barrels a day. But Mulva said he doesn't believe oil supply will ever exceed 100 million barrels a day. He didn't offer a price forecast.

"Demand will be going up, but it will be constrained by supply," Mulva said. " I don't think we are going to see the supply going over 100 million barrels a day and the reason is: Where is all that going to come from?"

"Where is the oil going to come from?" This is the CEO of the third biggest oil major in the USA, admitting that we no longer know where we can get access to oil. And he's repeating exactly what Christophe de Margerie, the boss of energy giant Total said a few days before: that IEA's projections, that everybody uses, are completely absurd (and, as you'll see in second, the chief economist of the very same IEA is, very schizophrenically, essentially saying the same thing...)

Given that demand is set to be way above 100mb/d within a few years (it's at around 86-88mb/d right now), we have a problem - if the supply's not there, we'll need demand destruction, ie people and economies that wanted oil and will be doing without instead. Will that happen in a controlled way, or be imposed on us/them? The question is still not asked enough by and to politicians...

But moving on to CEO n°2, that of BP, the British oil giant:

[BP plc (BP) Chief Executive Tony] Hayward said "about half" the world's oil has been recovered, but he implied that significant improvement is possible on a broader scale. "The biggest source of new oil will come from increasing recovery," he said.

Although BP has increased the oil price it uses to test whether energy investments are economical, Hayward rejected the idea that oil prices have shifted permanently into a higher trading range - along with the notion that the world has hit peak oil production.

Despite "rejecting the notion" of a peak in production, he is nevertheless the first senior oil executive, to my knowledge, to say that "half the oil" being gone - something which is usually considered to happen at pretty much the same time as peak production (although the two are not necessarily simultaneous). Even with enhanced recovery techniques, no country has been able to increase its maximum production once the peak had been reached - starting with the US and the North Sea region, where oil companies have had all the liberty to use all the most sophisticated techniques.

So yes, it is a pretty huge deal that the BP CEO says that half the oil is gone.

But, in a way, this is almost small beer compared to the various bombs dropped by IEA chief economist Fatih Birol in his interview with the FT. The interview is very long, but well worth reading in its entirety. I'm providing a few quotes below, but for those of you that arre finding this diary long already, here's the quick summary:

  • we are beyond peak oil in the non-OPEC world;
  • OPEC officially has lots of reserves - but we don't really know;
  • even if they make all the investment plans announced are made and are on time, we'll still have a gap of 12.5mb/d (more than 10% of overall demand) by 2015; we now officially need to beg OPEC to invest more;
  • oh, and by the way, that's the smaller of the two energy-related problems we have: climate change is a lot worse.

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Here are a few quotes:

FATIH BIROL: There are two major messages I was getting from the book. The first one is exactly what you say. The energy security risks are so strong, and probably increasing, for an upward event in the markets, and the second is on the climate change, on the CO2 emissions, the levels are reaching a certain level that we are [getting to] an irreversible trend for our planet.

(...)

my message is that, if we don’t do anything very quickly, and in a bold manner, the wheels may fall off.

(...)

FB: On the energy security, oil prices part, the numbers, one doesn’t need to be a big energy expert or anything: it’s just mathematics. I can tell you that we, in the next seven to eight years, need to bring about 37.5 million barrels per day of oil into the markets, for two reasons. One, the increase in the demand, about one third of it, and two thirds, there is a decline in the existing fields [and there is a need] to compensate for the decline. (...) [what] we expect [to be put in production] is 25 million barrels per day, and this is in the case of no slippages, no delays in the projects, and everything goes on time, which is very rare. So, there is a gap of 13.5 [sic] million barrels per day. (...) Within the next seven years.

What needs to be underlined here is that we already know, to a large extent, what oil fields will be put in production over the next 5-7 years. It takes several years to put a field online, and thus most of that medium term future capacity is already in the planning stage or in the construction phase, and is known to the industry and to institutions like the IEA which can have access to confidential company or national data.

And they are telling us we have this HUGE gap - just to give you an idea, it's almost equal to US imports... unless OPEC suddenly decides to invest more.

There are three major demand centres now, China, India and the Middle East.

(...)

So, demand will grow, and I think, if the governments of OECD, China and India, leave everything to the markets, in terms of slowing down the demand, they will make a historical mistake. In addition to the price related adjustments on demand, we need regulatory measures, such as efficiency improvements in the markets.

He notes the various reasons that push demand up, starting with demand growth in countries that are in an economic boom and thus not very sensitive to price - or willing tpo pay higher prices, and compounded by the fact that energy is subsidized in many countries, including India and China, but also the Middle East - as has been noted before, oil producing countries are those where demand is growing fastest, on the hell of oil income prosperity and subsidized gasoline, a phenomenon that cuts into export availability.

and that unavoidable message: market solutions will not work. We need collective, government-driven action. (In other words, we need Democrats in the USA - no surprise there).

we think that, in the Opec countries, there are enough reserves. We are not sure if there is a political will to make something out of those reserves, but there are enough reserves as officially reported. However, as you rightly say, we are getting more pessimistic about non-Opec production.

Ah... the little matter that nobody knows what the real reserves of OPEC countries are - they were pushed artificially in the 80s in the quotas wars: export quotas being proportional to reserves, all countries 'unveiled' new reserves... Kuwait has recently admitted that its reserves were only half their previous claims, and there is wide suspicion that it's the same for others. But the IEA has been using official OPEC numbers for years without ever rising the issue so, again, that small proviso in Birol's words is noticeable...

we think there are some geological problems in the non-Opec areas. This is not an investment issue, not a political issue, but it is more geology, because of a huge decline in the non-Opec countries.

Again, peak oil with another name.

Fatih Birol has more words about the low impact of Canadian tar sands, about Iran's production decline (compounded by the current tensions, which are not conducive to investment...), and flags the low efficiency of China and India's energy use, and the fact that unless they change behavior right now (simple things like using higher energy standards for fridges and other appliances, and modern technology for their power plants), they will be stuck for decades with inefficient - and carbon spewing - energy gobblers.

All in all, these declarations and this interview underpin the gravity of our energy crisis. One would think that $100 oil would be a wake up call, but alas, we still seem to be in full demagogic, declarative mode. Will we have to wait for actual shortages and lines to do something?

No poll, the answer is Yes.

Fatih Birol is reported as saying that "this is not Peak". The IEA also project oil supplies rising to 2030. So however much you would like to think he is admitting to a peak, he is not.

My favorite part is this:

"On the energy security, oil prices part, the numbers, one doesn’t need to be a big energy expert or anything: it’s just mathematics."

If I interpret this correctly, it matches up to my personally held belief. I think many of us amateur oil depletion sleuths have no special knowledge about geology and fossil fuels. However, we do know bean counting, have lots of knowledge about statistics, and possess some ability to logically state premises and make inferences.

As Bill Clinton would say: "It's the math, stupid"

Fatih Birol is reported as saying that "this is not Peak". The IEA also project oil supplies rising to 2030. So however much you would like to think he is admitting to a peak, he is not.

Well, yes, formally, that is true - they use words like "we're not at peak" and "we don't think there will be a peak", except that they say essentially the same thing using different words

Call it "the wheels will fall off" if you will, it's still the same thing: less oil than we'd like to have, and the very real consequences that follow as someone's oil demand will need to be denied, either by higher prices, shortages or else.

Like many people you confuse PO with the effects of PO. At TOD we really should try to be precise with terms.

Strictly speaking Peak Oil means peak of production, you are talking about consequences of PO. You are referring to what Roger Rapier calls Peak Oil Lite - even if production has not peaked, it will have effects similar to an actual peak.

I would concede they are saying the same thing as Peak Oil Lite, a shortfall will cause high prices. But they haven't admitted that oil supply will go into terminal decline - not yet.

I think there is an important difference. The message that IEA gives is that while the consumers will have a rough ride for a bit, the onus is on the suppliers to get their act together. This allows consumers to remain complacent.

The message we would like to give, is that consumers must not wait for suppliers to increase supplies (we believe they can't), but must be proactive in developing alternative sources and promoting conservation. If IEA said forget about oil, develop renewables, it would be quite a different outlook.

Even with the IEA's fairly stern warning, I expect we will have several more rounds of calls on OPEC to increase output, and OPEC saying they are not going to. OPEC play a dangerous game with that.

BobC:

I understand what you say, but I think that what you are describing was the IEA's earlier position - flag the potential effect and urge OPEC to produce more. Now, they are saying that non-OPEC is in decline ("geological" fact), and that overall production is likely to be 12.5mb/d less than we expect it to be - in 7 years!, i.e. that it will be lower than today, unless some sort of miracle happens (ie Iran and Iraq investing massively; and SA pushing its production up).

It's even more negative than the CEOs, in my view, and pretty damn close to real PO.

Did they use the word miracle? No.

You are still reading what you want to hear, not what they said.

Well, he does say that existing production will decline by 25mb/d by 2015, and will be replaced by 25 mb/d if all goes well:

And these are projects which are financially sanctioned projects. *If* they all see the light of the day *in a timely manner*, they will come up about 25 million barrels per day. So, 37.5 mlillion on the one hand, what is needed, and what we expect is 25 million barrels per day, and this is *in the case of no slippages, no delays in the projects*, and *everything goes on time, which is very rare*.

Lots of conditions for production just to remain flat... Fine, I said "miracle", but it's not really a stretch from his words.

The way I read it, he foresees declines of 25 mbd from existing fields (2/3 of 37.5), offset by anticipated additions of 25 mbd. So he sees a supply plateau, not an actual decline. But also no growth to meet growing demand (i.e. a shift in the demand curve) unless OPEC does something surprising. Peak Lite, high prices.

The long-term numbers are pure fantasy. I expect he knows that, but can't speak to it until it becomes internal consensus at IEA, so he's putting the warning into the medium-term scenarios. It's pretty easy to extrapolate from questions about OPEC's medium-term capabilities, to even bigger questions about the even bigger increases that would be required in the long term, as non-OPEC continues to decline "geologically".

peace,
lilnev

Good job BobCousins, and likewise De Marjarie of Total. If we read only a bit further into the EuroTrib article linked right here on TOD Europe, we read:

"It's quite simple in fact. Supply is constrained by lack of production capacity (whether this is because of depleted resources or, like Margeris proposes, voluntary limitation of investment by oil-rich countries, is irrelevant)."
There is a lot of "selective quoting" going on.

De Marjarie says it exactly right....some claim the OPEC nations are "holding back" on oil production. That I think, is false....but they are, as I have said in many posts, either holding back, or being very indecisive concerning investment to maintain surplus production, which does not benefit them, but simply protects the West from the risk of major oil shocks.

RC

ThatsItI'mOut
Roger Conners

You've put your finger on the problem. The strategy of the powers that be has shifted to maintain the status quo as long as possible, rather than outright denial. If the gurus and talking heads get honest the handwriting is on the wall for multinational oil companies, and the multinationals don't want to go out of business or change their paradigm so that their personal power and positions change for good.

Think about this for a bit: Everything changed with the first oil crisis in 1972

Before 1972
-major oil companies produce nearly
100% of the non-communist oil
-Only Majors have technology to drill and produce
Major oil companies can drill virtually all of the non communist world
-Russians and majors boycott each other, so markets are safe
-Majors control prices through swing capability of Texas

Now
-Multi-nationals produce less than 12% of the world production
-almost all prodction and new exploration technology controlled by geophysical and engineering firms with no interest in production (Schlumerger, Baker-Hughes Haliburton ect)
-Multinationals are restricted to less than 1/8th the potentially productive areas for E&P
-National oil companies control the products markets by petrochemical and refinery building decisions being made for political as well as profit motive
-prices controlled by demand and by investment decisions made by national companies

In other words, I'm saying the whole nature of the international oil business has changed and the former major oil companies don't control the oil business anymore. Yet our national governments in the OECD are buffaloed into believing that its true. Do you really think that the Neocons would have started the attempted conquest of Iraq if they'd thought about how the real power has shifted in the international oil business.

I might add that I started reading The Oil Drum 1 year and 27 weeks ago. I've studied the situation now for about a year and a half, but I believed like most people on the planet that the Multinationals were still people controlling the oil business. But, as I've read and thought about the problem my perception and conclusions have changed.

I think the multi-nationals are quickly accelerating on a downhill slide, and the whole integrated oil business is fixing to morph out of existance. There's a place for large independents in both the production and petrochemical/refining business and in the marketing business. So I'm fixing to sell my major company stock while the gettings good, I think CNBC noticing that the liquids production is down at ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco is the start of the crack in the dam thats going to bring it all down.

So, ladies and gentlemen, please argue with me about this, or add your own supporting observations. My conclusion is just too extreme for me to be comfortable with, yet, there it is-the multinationals will be out of business within 10 years and the oil business so changed as to be unrecognisable.
Bob Ebersole

You appear to consider all the fancy exploration and production techniques to the province of Schlumberger et al. What about Chinese companies? They seem to be pretty capable and I wouldn't be certain they aren't or won't soon be on a pretty equal footing with the traditional big players.

Any thoughts on that? It almost seems like the usual American exceptionalism to think that you need these guys to drill sideways in 2007, but maybe so. ??

These are great charts Jerome - it would be good to see them updated to 2007. These are the guys who promise us there is plenty oil and that increased recovery factors will save the day.

Its worth noting that the production boost that bp has comes from TNK - where BP's earnings are pegged to a relatively low $ / bbl - somewhere in the 20s I believe - so they don't get much benefit from high price from this part of there production. But the fact this is a very favourable deal for Russia means that BP may get to keep it. Production growth since 04 has come from improved reservoir management and de-bottlenecking. This is one reason why Exxon are still a larger company than BP by cap.

Oilmanbob,

To use your exact words, "You've put your finger on the problem."

I think your exactly right about the decline of the oil majors, and I think you are right to take the history of the changing situation back to the early 1970's, at the American peak. So whether or not we are at Peak oil production in the world, we seem to surely be at what I have called "Peak 7 sisters productions", referencing the famous old book of the title "The 7 Sisters", a reference to the old oil majors. And no, I don't now own a single share of any of them, anymore than I own shares in the old "big 3" automakers. I think the future for both industries is now one of gradual but advancing decline, and finally, diversification out of their primary industries.

Does that mean that cars will not be built? Of course not. Does that mean that oil and gas will not be drilled? Of course not. What we are seeing is a long running process of decentralization in all industry, and it looks very much like a "great collapse". Instead, it may be a "great opportunity".

RC

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Tonite's OSU KU football game on ABC Brent Musberger asked Boone Pickens flat out are we at peak oil. Boone's answer was Yes the world is consuming 88 mbls a day and producing 85.

I hope Brent Musberger will join Keith Olberman as a former sports guy that knows how to ask the pointed questions that the regular media won't go near.

I think he was fishing for investment advice because he also asked about water which Pickens is also investing in water pipeline projects.

Then he should stick to sports after all.

I beg to differ. Water is one of the smartest (and least appreciated) investment opportunities out there. In some ways, it's even more critical that peak oil or climate change. Naturally, guys like Boone are a bit ahead of the pack.

Here is an article on the subject by one of my colleagues. He has a slide deck you really should see (not available online unfortunately) about the global water situation. It knocked me off my feet.

--C
Energy consultant, writer, blogger www.getreallist.com

Yes but he is planning on depleting the Ogalala Aquifer in the process.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5266952.html

From the water encyclopedia:
"The Ogallala Aquifer occupies the High Plains of the United States, extending northward from western Texas to South Dakota. The Ogallala is the leading geologic formation in what is known as the High Plains Aquifer System. The entire system underlies about 450,000 square kilometers (174,000 square miles) of eight states. Although there are several other minor geologic formations in the High Plains Aquifer System, such as the Tertiary Brule and Arikaree and the Dakota formations of the Cretaceous, these several units are often referred to as the Ogallala Aquifer.

The Ogallala Aquifer is being both depleted and polluted. Irrigation withdraws much groundwater, yet little of it is replaced by recharge. Since large-scale irrigation began in the 1940s, water levels have declined more than 30 meters (100 feet) in parts of Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas. In the 1980s and 1990s, the rate of groundwater mining, or overdraft, lessened, but still averaged approximately 82 centimeters (2.7 feet) per year."

I didn't realize that Brent Musberger was planning on draining an aquifer.

Pickens was building that water line to Dallas maybe this is the reason.http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-norms_11wes.ART.East.Edition1.420fc23.html

klee,
You're right of course. In the long run, depleting Ogallala isn't going to do anybody any good. But that's a survival/long term strategy. From a short term investing strategy, which is what this comment was about, water is going to make some serious bank.
--C
Energy consultant, writer, blogger www.getreallist.com

The Ogallala also sets on top of some pretty nasty shale full of all kinds of crap.
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16429535

I did trace mineral analysis on water from this aquifer.

Some of its pretty bad I would not drink it.

There appears to be a bandwagon effect now that it becomes clear that we are past peak: 2005 for crude and 2006 for liquids. I will be interesting to see what CERA says now. They still have have their "Peak Oil Theory Flawed" advertisement when Googling "Peak Oil."

so it's obvious we're in some big ass 'effin trouble, if it wasn't before. the fact these jabronis all got together and admitted it means ship is going down damn fast. How many TODers have even a 2-week supply of food on hand? My guess is less than 5%.

2+ weeks, plus the woodstove and fuel to keep warm and cook, plus water, plus a garden, plus a bit of farmland outside of the village.

Plus the local farmers, plus the local forest, plus a regional agricultural structure (that is, stores filled with local produce), plus a society which seems to have been concerned about such things for a long time.

Of all the things I have listed, the last is the most critical.

Though my fear of how humans act in groups is almost unbounded (being recently marginally involved in a tiny-teeny net incident only reinforced the idea of how, as one of the people calling me sociopathic noted, 'crazy is catching'), the fact remains we are social animals.

Though personal responsibility and preparation are certainly necessary, it is society which is of overriding importance.

To put it bluntly - for decades, the U.S. has been cutting down orchards, ripping up pasture, and replacing farmland with suburbia. In Germany, people have been planting orchards, stopped using pesticides on pastures, and building windmills on farmland.

Does this mean that Germany will likely face coming challenges better than the U.S.? Certainly. Does this mean that after only 1/3 of the U.S. nuclear arsenal is expended in a desperate attempt to 'defend the fuel' the future will be so bright we will all need to wear shades? Maybe.

In a way, this where we actually agree - I think the U.S. is going insane, and will not be able to survive long in its present form. However, the U.S. is not the world.

2-3years food,140 fruit trees,BIG garden,spring,1000gal propane,seed,and spring for water.I have made "emergency"prep one of the main goals..{some people race cars,some people do football,wear top end clothing and eat at fine dining establishments...me,I prepare for a existence as a prosperous peasant ....I think maybe more folks here do more than they may say....I just got a shock from a co-worker who has gotten on the "prep" bandwagon.You would never expect it from his public persona...

You left out guns and ammo from your list. How will you defend your crop from the starving masses?

When humans invented agriculture they had to get an army to guard the crop and the harvest. Remember, war is theft.

This is part of what I meant about society. Speaking broadly (very broadly, and ignoring lots of very bloody history), the farmers and gardeners that I know of around this region of Germany are not planning on arming themselves to deal with the starving masses.

Maybe because most people around here assume that food will be fairly distributed enough that there won't be any starving masses. Or because the last time the starving masses left the city (as described by people who actually experienced this in the mid-1940s), they politely knocked on the house door, and offered whatever they had in return for food. Which generally didn't help that much, as the villagers had pretty much only enough for themselves. The same was true in many parts of Europe. Of course the places food was stored were guarded, rationing was imposed, black markets flourished, riots occurred, and so on - but that strangely American vision of people roaming the streets with guns (keep in mind, in Europe of the mid 1940s, guns were not exactly hard to acquire - they just didn't seem to have much value) did not occur.

America is going to fracture remains my refrain - in part because of some very basic assumptions, such as weapons are a necessary part of social interaction in a world where the shopping mall is empty. Or that having a weapon is your best defense. Strangely, I think having a weapon is a statistical marker of being likely to die from gunfire, but that is only because I believe summaries of data concerning weapon ownership in the U.S. over the past couple of decades.

I feel much safer without a gun than with one - and if I am ever in a situation where a weapon is preferable, then the situation is already really, really bad - and one I have never encountered in my life till now.

Expat, I'm in a different part of the world but draw the same conclusions about both the culture and fate of the US and the culture and fate of the society here. There is a very strong sense of community here. People work hard, they don't have much money, but they pull together to help their neighbors when they need it.

Everything we eat is grown withing 50km of us, and a lot of it is organic and produced within 10km including our coffee.

Ditto...from a neighbor to the east.

Thank you for the voice of sanity expat. Likewise, I'm preparing for a life without much energy and doing it without a gun.

Here's my prediction. The distances are pretty large in the U.S compared to Europe. With gas there will be plenty of looting opportunities but the hordes won't be able to get a few blocks at most -- five to ten miles -- at most -- on foot. The poor will just sit in their houses and wait for the government to bail them out. Like they did with Katrina. After the initial walking-distance looting spree is over then things will start to get interesting. The looting spree will only be short term. Not more than a couple of weeks. After that I guess people will move out to farms to be sharecroppers or something like that. Anything they can do to get food.

Wide availability of oil pre-supposes a very complicated oil-delivery infrastructure. A very complicated operating delivery infrastructure forbids roving gangs. Cities will become very dangerous places though as the inhabitants will fight for the scraps of whats left and the upper and middle classes pretend to continue as if it was business as usual.

and your Address , Please Sir

Now THAT was funny, sleepingbear.

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In general you need 1-2 months food on hand